N Perms - What's yours? (2024)

How's it guys.

I've seen loads of you post about using J perms as N perms, but with a R U R' before and after, or something along those lines.

I can't seem to find it, and i hate the N perms i have now.

Please post your N perms here

Thanks in advance

I finally learned them very recently.

N(a): (L U' L' U L) (F U F') (L' U' L) (F' L F) (L' U L')
N(b): (R U R' U' R) (F' U' F) (R U R') (F R' F') (R U' R)

I tried R U R' J perms, I don't like them, for me they're slower than the regular Ns that i do.

Are there any sub 2-ers who does'nt use these.

yurivish said:

I think it's R U R' U [j perm] [opposite of R U R' U] for one of them. I'm not sure off the top of my head what the analogue is for the other J perm, it might just be inversing the R and U's.

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PLL Algorithms for Rubik's Cube - Learning to Cube

umm i guess that works, but i think a y-rotation is more common than the U-turn.

one is R U R' y Ja perm y' R U' R'

the other is R' U' R y' Jb perm y R' U R

the rotations are optional, depending on how you hold the cube during your j-perms. obviously you perform your j perm on the 2x3 block of oriented peices left after the R U R' or whatever.

i use these, and i hate them. I am switching to others soon.

http://cubefreak.net/PLL.html

I got sub 2 singles on both and average about 2.2 on both when alg speeding.
When solving, probably more like 3 seconds.

Lotsofsloths said:

Omg, I thank you Wuqiong.
Thanks for this alg that I have fell in love with at first sigh..I meant first try.
R' U R' F R F' R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R

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Glad that someone at least like one of the algs I concluded to be the fastest of its kind. But seriously, someone's got to try my Y perm. It's just so fast for me. Almost faster than T perm.

Kenneth said:

2x(R' U L' U2 R U' L)

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same. And the reflection of course. relatively fast

Thanks for the replies guys. Keep 'em comin'

CAT13 said:

Kenneth said:

2x(R' U L' U2 R U' L)

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same. And the reflection of course. relatively fast

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That's what i'm using now and i hate it

DAE_JA_VOO said:

Thanks for the replies guys. Keep 'em comin'

CAT13 said:

Kenneth said:

2x(R' U L' U2 R U' L)

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same. And the reflection of course. relatively fast

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That's what i'm using now and i hate it

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It is fast. Look at nakaji's video showing how he executes them. They help a lot. (of course I like starting on L, so I do the reflection, that is faster.)

fanwuq said:

Lotsofsloths said:

Omg, I thank you Wuqiong.
Thanks for this alg that I have fell in love with at first sigh..I meant first try.
R' U R' F R F' R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R

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Glad that someone at least like one of the algs I concluded to be the fastest of its kind. But seriously, someone's got to try my Y perm. It's just so fast for me. Almost faster than T perm.

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yeah thats a really good one. and i did give your Y-perm a try and it just didnt work for me.

Raffael said:

I finally learned them very recently.

N(a): (L U' L' U L) (F U F') (L' U' L) (F' L F) (L' U L')
N(b): (R U R' U' R) (F' U' F) (R U R') (F R' F') (R U' R)

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Sorry, made mistake with the second one.
it has to be (R' U R U' R') in the beginning instead.

DAE_JA_VOO said:

Thanks for the replies guys. Keep 'em comin'

CAT13 said:

Kenneth said:

2x(R' U L' U2 R U' L)

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same. And the reflection of course. relatively fast

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That's what i'm using now and i hate it

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It's the one Erik A. uses, except with with a z before, so it's done in [URD]. I do it that way, too, but it takes me five seconds, it takes him under 2. Watch his PL:L video on youTube.

well...I use nakaji's...

L' U R' z R2 U R' U z' R U R' z R2 U R' z' R U'
and
z R' U R' D R'2 U' R U D' R' D R'2 U' R D'
I don't like the second one, but I can't find anything obviously better

has anybody tried
F' R U R' U' R' F R2 F U' R' U' R U F' R' ?

GuyWithFunnyHat said:

well...I use nakaji's...

L' U R' z R2 U R' U z' R U R' z R2 U R' z' R U'

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That alg doesn't work. I'm guessing it's a simple mistake, but I'm not sure where.

Brian.